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Usenet Mac Digest     Friday, February 19, 1988      Volume 4 : Issue 27

Today's Topics:
     Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
     Mail on Mac?
     Chrystalography and the 3rd Dimension
     Wanted: information on MiniCad 3D
     "Shelf life" of storage media
     Re: Mac Music
     Multifinder startup oddity
     Using an apple 3.5" drive as a spare part
     Re: Versaterm 3.1 background "send file"
     How to have Mac count laser pages automatically?
     Re: Option key death
     removing dialog boxes from the Minifinder
     Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
     Re: Versaterm 3.1 background "send file"
     Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
     Re: An Open Letter to Apple (Re: ImageWriter problem)
     MacRecorder history (was Re: Is MacRecorder what BMUG sold for $20?)
     Re: Versaterm 3.1 background "send file"
     Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
     Program to make log.
     Using IBM SCSI tapestreamer with Mac's
     LightspeedC 3.0 Upgrade Policy

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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
Date: 16 Feb 88 21:53:21 GMT
Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd

>I am fairly new to the Mac system.  What I need to do is decide what kinds
>and brands of software our Company should order to run on the Mac.  I am
>particularly interested in everyones opinion on word processors.  How is
>Righnow? Fullwrite? Macwrite? Wordperfect? MSWord and so on.. And
>presentation packages ie Powerpoint.  Spreadsheets and databases ie. Excel
>and Filemaker.  Data comm packages?  Microphone okay?  What else  would you
>suggest?

Oh, boy.  I get to let people yell at me again. Now, to start up some
controversy with some recommendations:

Word Processors: What do you need? A good, solid, low end product? A
fully-blown, turbo-driven version? They're really two markets, not one.

Low end WP's. Look at the new Macwrite. Look at Writenow. Look at
Microsoft Write, especially if you think you might need more power later
and want a compatible upgrade path.

High End WP's. If you need a power processor, defer your purchase as
long as possible. This market is just starting to get interesting, and
unless you're ready to commit before the party is over, I'd wait, unless
you're willing to put down bucks and then convert to something else when
the dust settles (which is MORE bucks, if you guess wrong). If I were
walking into the WP market today, I'd probably buy Microsoft Write and
see what happens in the Word/FullWrite wars.

here's how the high-end WP's look to me:

o WordPerfect. Very disappointing. For folks who need WP compatibility
with
  the PC world only, or who already know and love it. Not for real Mac
  folks.

o Microsoft Word. I got an interesting rumor for a highly placed,
unnamed
  source (not at Microsoft, tho) that Word 4.0 for the Mac will be out
(or
  at least announced) in March. Let's be conservative and say April.
  Supposedly, it's primarily cleanup and performance enhancments
  (significantly faster), not a lot of new functionality. If I'm right,
you
  heard it here first. If not, well, never mind...

o FullWrite Pro. Just bought by Ashton-Tate. The demo/beta versions have
  folks (including me) drooling. The buyout has implications, whether
it'll
  be good or bad is too soon to tell (I'm hopeful -- AAS was technically
  sound, but not a good marketing or business organization. A-T can take
the
  software, which is nifty, and turn it into a product, which is
critical).
  Latest date on shipment is April. I'll believe it if I see it.

There's a couple of other new, high end programs that'll be announced or
start shipping this year. Too early to really tell whether they'll be
factors, but I wouldn't want to be a startup in this market.

My preferences? I'm rooting for fullwrite. What time I've spent with it
has been fun. it's amazingly maclike, very powerful, and intuitive. It's
also an amazing memory hog -- Mac+ owners take note. Unless you've got
lots of memory (and my two machines both have 2 meg, and that's starting
to seem small....) you better stand ready to toss out those INIT's, turn
off those disk caches, and get rid of Multifinder. My two biggest
worries about FWP are that it won't ship in April (or if it does, it'll
be buggy) and that it's simply too big to fit on most Mac's. If I had to
toss out QuickKeys and Multifinder for Fullwrite, I wouldn't. this may
come back to haunt them.

And if they don't ship in April, they're in deep trouble. The other
problem FWP has is Microsoft. If, as the rumor says, they DO ship or
announce Word 4.0 in March or April, and if it clears up the performance
and interface issues that plague word (It's not really Multifinder
compatible. It doesn't crash, but it sure doesn't like other processes
to exist; also, it doesn't like Suitcase, it doesn't like things playing
with it's menubar, and it does funny things to internal events) so that
it's a fully cooperative player on the Mac game, rather than a ported PC
program with a mouse, then FWP has problems. Switching to a new Word
Processor is a royal pain, and if Word gets its act together, lots of
folks (myself included) won't bother, even if FWP turns out to be better
than sliced bread. Inertia's a big market force
-- you may not love Word, but it's easier to stay with something you've
invested a LOT of time with than rebuild all that stuff new unles you get
more in return. The question is whether FWP will deliver that.

On to others: presentation packages. Who cares? This is a market in search
of a reason, a great hype with little substance. Powerpoint does some nice
things, but how many people REALLY need something that can't be done in
their Word Processor? Seriously, now....

Spreadsheets: if you need power, buy Excel. If you don't, buy Works.
Microsoft finally does some product right. And does it twice.

Databases: again, a high-end low end split. High end: 4th Dimension. It
slices bread. It'll probably vacuum my house once I find the right command.
The documentation gives you hernias. This is Neat Stuff.

Low end: A dogfight between Filemaker plus and Reflex plus. I prefer
Filemaker. It's got better report creation procedures. Reflex is a little
more powerful on the database end. Either looks good.

Terminal packages: I use Red Ryder. I love it. I hate it. Typical reaction
to the program. It's butt ugly, but it works. Multifinder compatible
(although Word won't let it download in the background. foo!). I used to use
MacTerminal, but outgrew it. Microphone? Supposed to be okay.

Now, THAT should start a discussion...


Chuq Von Rospach            [e-mail]        Delphi: CHUQ

                       What do you mean 'You don't really want to hurt her?'
                                    I'm a Super-Villain! That's my Schtick!


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From: [e-mail] (Joel Shprentz)
Subject: Mail on Mac?
Date: 17 Feb 88 02:41:01 GMT
Organization: BDM Corp., McLean, Virginia

We have Macs and Suns sharing files with Tops.  Is there a program that
lets Mac users exchange mail with Sun users?

Please reply directly to me and I will summarize to this group.
--
Joel Shprentz                   Phone:  [phone]
BDM Corporation                 Uucp:  {rutgers,vrdxhq,rlgvax}!bdmrrr!shprentz
7915 Jones Branch Drive         Internet:  [e-mail]
McLean, Virginia  22102


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From: [e-mail] (D. Jay Newman)
Subject: Chrystalography and the 3rd Dimension
Date: 17 Feb 88 13:37:59 GMT
Organization: The Pennsylvania State University - Computation Center

I will be programming a chrystallography lesson to run on the Mac, and I
have a few questions.  Does anybody know of any other computer aided
instruction about chrystalography (not necessarily on the Mac)?  Second,
is there any 3-D plotting packages out there?  I will be programming in
MPW Pascal and MacApp, and need a package which allows me to do
rotations of simple shapes (complete with hiding the other sides).  I
have seen the Graph3D libraries that come with MPW, and they won't do
what we need. If no packages come to mind, I would appreciate the names
of any good text- books in the field.

Please email, and I will summarize for the net.
--
                             Jay, etc...

email:    dn5 at psuvm.bitnet

phone:    [phone]
address:  D. Jay Newman
          Penn State University
          Office of Microcomputing Applications
          12 Willard Building
          University Park, PA.  16802


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From: [e-mail] (Martin Spanjaard)
Subject: Wanted: information on MiniCad 3D
Date: 9 Feb 88 09:29:03 GMT
Organization: uvabick

I try to use MiniCad, specifically the 3D part of it, which is almost
not des- cribed in the manual. It seems to be very buggy and at least
very sensitive to wrong input order. When using Paste&Merge it's not
clear to me if you can or must use NewObject. PolyPeek sometimes works,
mostly not. DataPeek and the other data manipulation commands are
totally unclear, so I don't know if they are useful anyhow. And why is
DeletePoints so dangerous?

Thank you in advance.  Please either e-mail me, or post.
--
Martin Spanjaard
University of Amsterdam

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Charles Blair)
Subject: "Shelf life" of storage media
Date: 17 Feb 88 05:27:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Chicago


Does anyone have pointers to factual discussions, information or studies
about how long various storage media are expected to last, particularly
(and for example) magnetic tape, magnetic disks, and optical storage
devices?

Acid-free paper should last for a millennium (at least). Is any
electronic technology as durable? (It would be odd if that kind of
storage time could only be achieved by transferring data from magnetic
or optical media to some kind of acid-free punch card!)

E-mail responses preferred.

Thanks in advance.

--
Bitnet:           [e-mail]
Internet:      [e-mail]
uucp:      ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!cjdb


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Kimpton)
Subject: Re: Mac Music
Date: 16 Feb 88 05:21:19 GMT
Organization: Icon International Inc., Orem, Utah

In article <32631KSN@PSUVM> [e-mail] (Peter A. Krupa) writes:
>I looking for a good music composer/player program.  I have an early
>version of Concertware, but its limited to sixteenth notes.  Ideally,
>I'd like music software that can manage sixty-fourth notes, and be
>MIDI compatible.  Any suggestions?

I bought MidiPaint last weekend, with a Professional Plus MIDI
interface. If you can overlook some of it's deficiencies and
idiosycrasies, it's a really nice program.  16 channels of output, and
unlimited song length (or 999 measures, I'm a little confused here).
You paint songs with either of two paint brushes, one quantized, the
paints from button down to button up.  The paint display shows a piano
keyboard oriented vertically along the left edge of the window, with the
tool pallette to the left of the window.  Vertical dimension is pitch,
horizontal is duration.  A song thus looks like a piano roll.  Quantized
notes are 128th's to quarters, with dotteds and triplets in between
(nothing larger, one of the irksome things). Lots of MIDI events stuff,
can record incoming. LOTS of features.  But many quirks, look at it
before you buy it.

I like it, but I'd like to see some changes.
--
Tom Kimpton            {ihnp4,uunet}!iconsys!tom
Icon International, Inc.    {ihnp4,psivax}!nrcvax!nrc-ut!iconsys!tom
Orem, Utah 84058        ARPANET: [e-mail]
[phone]            BITNET: icon%byuadam.bitnet


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From: [e-mail] (Ralph Martin)
Subject: Multifinder startup oddity
Date: 11 Feb 88 09:52:44 GMT
Organization: Univ. Coll. Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.

Have you noticed an oddity about the way startup is done in multifinder?

You can Either
 Start up desired applications and documents for them Or
 Start up the currently open applications and DAs

This means that you can't start up a combination which includes (a) some
DAs, and at the same time (b) some applications with desired documents.
This seems a little unfortunate, and perhaps could be improved in future
versions.

Still, presumably DAs as we know them will slowly fade away with
multifinder: I found earlier discussions about DAs under multifinder
odd. The ONLY ones  likely to be of use in future ARE parasitic ones, eg
which load extra fonts into an application, do spelling checking for it
and so on. Others such as clocks, calculators and the like will all
become small applications in their own right. I think that Apple have
got their option key effect for DAs the wrong way round, for this very
reason.

One final small point - why should finder HAVE to be launched under
multifinder - I might want to run without it! For example, I might just
want to run MacWrite and MacPaint, just switching between these two, and
never launch anything else. This is not a serious suggestion - just a
philosophical comment.

Disclaimer:    If my employer doesnt like what I'm saying, I'll quit
        for a job in the real world, with real pay, ......
--
JANET: [e-mail]
ARPA:  [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Juri Munkki)
Subject: Using an apple 3.5" drive as a spare part
Date: 15 Feb 88 18:34:04 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

Some people here are trying to repair internal (MacPlus) 800K drives by
replacing them with new external drives. While I have not verified this,
they tell me that the external drive does not work by simply connecting
it.

I remember seeing some information on this somewhere, but I can't locate
it. The note said that two wires should be cut (if I remember
correctly).

Please mail me, if you know the answer.
--
Juri Munkki
[e-mail]        (internet)
[e-mail]        (bitnet)

Helsinki University of Technology
Computing Centre
Otakaari 1, room Y250A
02150 Espoo, Finland


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From: [e-mail] (Bert Buckley)
Subject: Re: Versaterm 3.1 background "send file"
Date: 16 Feb 88 16:33:26 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

To be brief: Running Versaterm 3.1 with MF at 19.2, background file
transfers have worked fine for me, except that I get "File transfer
failed" if I am not back in VT when the end is reached. I will look
forward to a fix: I am reluctant to do background transfers in case I
don't get back in time.


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From: [e-mail] (Peter Steele)
Subject: How to have Mac count laser pages automatically?
Date: 16 Feb 88 17:17:27 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Acadia Univ., Nova Scotia

We charge people 15 cents a page to print on the LaserWriter hooked up
to our Mac network. This requires the operator to collect the output and
count the pages manually, hoping that everyone has remembered to print a
cover page when they queue their jobs. Is there a way to hook into the
laserwriter driver so that each time a page is sent to the laserprinter
accounting information is updated for the user printing the job?
Furthermore, is there a way to hook into the laserwriter driver so that
we could force a banner page (possibly one of our own creation), to be
printed with each job. I realize this is a tall order, but we would
really appreciate any and all comments on this issue. (Would Inside
Laser Writer be of any help to us?)


--
Peter Steele Acadia Univ. Wolfville NS Canada B0P1X0 [phone]x121
UUCP:{uunet|watmath|utai|garfield}dalcs!aucs!Peter BITNET:Peter@Acadia
-------------Internet:[e-mail]-------------


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From: [e-mail] (Andy J. Williams)
Subject: Re: Option key death
Date: 16 Feb 88 17:57:18 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <[e-mail]> I write:
>Yep.  We had the *exact* same problem on our Mac II at the Personal
>Computer Center here. (extended keyboard).  Apparently Apple is shipping
>some faulty keyboards.  When we shook the keyboard we heard something
>rattle inside.  We sent it over to the repair shop here and it is happy now.
>Anyone else have something similar?

Sorry to follow up to my own article, but I just found out that the
keyboard STILL does this.  yesterday it was acting as if the option key
was stuck and when someone turned it upside down something still rattled
and many many keys showed as black in KeyCaps.  After another shake, it
works.  Any clues?

-Andy

--
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HB 509 Dartmouth Clg|\`o_O' |UUCP: {ihnp4,decvax,linus}!dartvax!eleazar!borscht
Hanover, NH 03775   |  ( )  |_ DISCLAIMER: You better like my opinions,
603-643-7727        |   U ACK!|            my mother can beat up your mother...


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From: [e-mail] (Dion Dock)
Subject: removing dialog boxes from the Minifinder
Date: 17 Feb 88 01:15:55 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR


    Is there any way that the Minifinder can be made foolproof?  I would
like t know if there is a way to close or remove the dialog boxes that
say "open other", "shutdown", and "finder", or possibly more.  I
searched the Minifinder with ResEdit and could not find any resource
that seemed correct. Help!  This is important.
--
thanks in advance
Dion Dock

E-mail the answer to me or post it on the net.
!tektronix!reed!diond


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From: [e-mail] (Jan Harrington)
Subject: Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
Date: 17 Feb 88 13:54:50 GMT
Organization: Scholastech, Inc., Waltham, Mass.

This is the database lady, up on her soapbox again ...

Filemaker is an excellent piece of software, but it is NOT a database --
it is a file manager, and the difference can be significant.  Whether or
not you should purchase it depends on what your data management needs
are.

If you will be handling data that can be stored in a single table, such
as a mailing list or a customer list, then a file manager can do the
trick. However, if you need to relate more than one table (e.g., a
customer list and a list of orders placed by your customers) then a file
manager will not suffice, since a file manager can only handle one table
of data (a "file", though the term is a bad one) at a time.

Database management systems can handle multiple tables of data.  At the
low end there is an excellent program called Reflex Plus.  It can handle
multiple tables, but can't be used for stand-alone application
development. If you will need multiple tables and don't want to deal
with a complex program, look closely at Reflex Plus.  It is also
reasonably priced.

At the high end are "the big four", which are DBMSs that can be used for
application development -- 4th Dimension, Double Helix II, dBase Mac,
and Omnis 3 Plus.  These are all powerful but complex pieces of
software. They are also relatively expensive.  Look carefully at your
needs before you make a decision, since in this day of rising DBMS
prices, a mistake can certainly be costly.
--
Jan Harrington, sysop
Scholastech Telecommunications
ihnp4!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop or allegra!stech!sysop

********************************************************************************
    Miscellaneous profundity:

        "No matter where you go, there you are."
                Buckaroo Banzai
********************************************************************************


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From: [e-mail] (Phil Reese)
Subject: Re: Versaterm 3.1 background "send file"
Date: 17 Feb 88 17:08:03 GMT
Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley

While I haven't tried the specific situation that you describe I think
it is important to point out that there has been TWO upgrades to
VersaTerm since version 3.1.  I believe the current version is 3.20, Jan
10, 1988. Lonnie has the interesting policy of making small changes to
the program but not bumping the version number.  Thus there was a
version 3.2 in October and now there is still version 3.2 but a release
date of Jan 10. He is very tuned to using MultiFinder so I would expect
better performance all around if you use the current version.
--
Phil Reese
SESAME Group
School of Ed, UC Berkeley
[e-mail]
{decvax,dual,hplabs,sdcsvax,ulysses}!ucbvax!garnet!preese

[ There have actually been more than that ;->.  Seems Lonnie doesn't like
  updating the version numbers often so you'll have to check the dates as
  well.  Lonnie is *very* willing to take suggestions from his users and
  implement them almost immediately.  That is why the latest version
  changes so often.  At least *I* know I usually have the "latest and
  greatest" since I am one of his primary beta testers :-)  - Jeff ]

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From: [e-mail] (Sam Cramer)
Subject: Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
Date: 17 Feb 88 17:33:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>Spreadsheets: if you need power, buy Excel. If you don't, buy Works.
>Microsoft finally does some product right. And does it twice.

Or consider MacCalc.  Faster than Excel and it gives you DTP-quality
control over spreadsheet formatting for $80 (street price).  It's
missing graphing and macros, though.

Disclaimer: I know the developer of MacCalc.  Regardless, I think it is
a  very good spreadsheet.

Sam Cramer    {cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,seismo,ucbvax}!sun!cramer
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Nick Bhatt)
Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Apple (Re: ImageWriter problem)
Date: 17 Feb 88 23:22:30 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA

ImageWriter flambe...yumm, yumm

We are definitely worried if ImageWriters suddenly start taking their
own lives.  I have just finished printing the Home card from HyperCard,
in which I have changed almost the enire card to solid black.  I was
using my AppleTalk ImageWriter and driver version 2.6.  I encountered
ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS.

Now a few notes:

[1] My ImageWriter is a relatively new one -- it's platinum and
everything. [2] The ROM version is 04.  I would like to know what your
versions are
    (assuming the printer is still alive and unrepaired). [3] Black
backgrounds have a way of destroying printers.  This is mostly
    due to the amount of heat generated when you fire every single pin,
    on every single pixel, for the length of the line (and job).  The
    firmware is supposed to prevent the printer from committing self-
    immolation, and my ImageWriter pauses at the end of each line of
    solid black to permit the head to cool down.  If your ImageWriter
    was plugging along, line after line without pause, then that's
probably
    what happened.  This is supposed to be handled automatically in the
    firmware, and IS NOT driver controllable. [4] The big question,
though, is why are you seeing it now?  This I cannot
    answer without more information from you.  I don't see how it could
be
    the driver, since it works just fine for me.  I'm open to
suggestions,
    though. [5] Please tell me what ROM versions you have, if you have a
color ribbon
    installed or not, AppleTalk or not.  Perform the printer self-test
to
    find the version number.  It's printed at the top as ROMREV().

           --NB
             AppleLink: BHATT1


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From: [e-mail] (Aron Roberts)
Subject: MacRecorder history (was Re: Is MacRecorder what BMUG sold for $20?)
Date: 18 Feb 88 04:03:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Robert Breckinridge Beatie)
writes:
>[Re: the MacRecorder A/D converter, now being sold commercially as
> MacRecorder II by Farallon Computing]
>Anyway, when I was a BMUG member, they did sell kits for sound digitizers.
>They also had software that went with the hardware.  The software was (in my
>opinion) truly amazing.  Somebody did a truly remarkable piece of work.

Agreed.

The author of the original MacRecorder software was Michael Lamoureux,
who was working toward a Ph.D. in math at UC Berkeley at the time.  Some
early articles describing the the MacRecorder kit can be found in the
Fall 1985 issue of the Berkeley Macintosh Users Group (BMUG) newsletter:

o Ty Shipman, "MacRecorder:  A Speech digitizer for the Macintosh," p.
51-57; o Michael Lamoureux, "MacRecorder II:  An improved voice
digitizer for
  the Macintosh," p. 58-60; and o Michael Lamoureux, "The MacRecorder
Software," p. 61-65 (including a
  highly-condensed two-page source listing (MacForth).

The first demo I saw back in '85 was impressive.  Even more so was
Michael's attitude.  He was modest about his accomplishment, and seemed
genuinely surprised by the wildly enthusiastic ovation which followed
his MacRecorder demonstration.  He was also very interested in and
responsive to suggestions for improvements, possible applications, and
the like.

Perhaps someone connected with BMUG or Farallon might wish to fill us in
on the more recent history of this product--which now rates a full-page
ad on the back cover of the latest MacWeek!


   Aron Roberts  Tolman Microcomputer Facility
                 1535 Tolman Hall, University of California
                 Berkeley, CA 94720  [phone]
                 [e-mail]   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Straka)
Subject: Re: Versaterm 3.1 background "send file"
Date: 17 Feb 88 14:45:10 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clive Steward)
writes:
>From article <[e-mail]|, by [e-mail] (Michael Sonnier):
>>
>> I have experienced some problems using "Send File" from Versaterm 3.1 under
>> Multi-finder.  The file transfer works ok and I can switch back to multifinder
>> or to another application while the transfer is in progress.  However if I
>> have not returned to Versaterm when the transfer ends I get the beep

I talked to Lonnie Abelbeck,(the primary author, for those of you who
don't know) and he sheepishly admitted that he had put some hooks in for
a future feature, and a small bug crept in.  He stated that the
currently (this was around 1/1/88) shipping version is fixed.  This
version is still called 3.1, but look at the date in the "Welcome Box"
when you fire up the program to discern actual release date.

I haven't gotten around to upgrading yet.  It doesn't bother me THAT
much.

>As to why, or how to fix -- Versaterm either needs a longer internal
>buffer for those of us who run it fast (it works so well, otherwise,
>at speed -- really fast xmodem decoding), or there is a fix needed for
>something about the window transition period.

I don't know what the bug actually was.

>It's a great program, just has a bug.  Still highly recommended.

Agreed. (SDA)
--
Rich Straka     ihnp4!ihlpf!straka

Advice for the day: "MSDOS - just say no."


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From: [e-mail] (Stephen B. Baumgarten)
Subject: Re: Software for the Mac -- recommendations wanted.
Date: 18 Feb 88 15:08:11 GMT
Organization: DP&W, New York, NY

While I almost always agree with Chuq, and while the parts of his
software overview I omitted (for space reasons) were well thought out
and well written, I felt I should mention Versaterm as an excellent,
low-cost ($79) terminal package featuring good, FAST VT100/102
emulation, correctly implemented Kermit protocol for multiple file
transfers (also supports long packets), and a user interface that's a
joy to use.  Works perfectly with Multifinder.  The only thing it lacks
is a high-level scripting capability (it can do basic logons OK,
though).  For that you need Red.  On the other hand, Red doesn't even
come close to Navigator for getting around Compuserve, so...

Just thought I'd put in a good word for a good product.

--
   Steve Baumgarten             | "New York... when civilization falls apart,
   Davis Polk & Wardwell        |  remember, we were way ahead of you."
   ...!cmcl2!esquire!sbb        |                           - David Letterman


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From: [e-mail] (Bo Holst-Christensen)
Subject: Program to make log.
Date: 15 Feb 88 10:32:14 GMT
Organization: DIKU, U of Copenhagen


   I am planning to write a small piece of code to save information
about which Macintosh applications has been run and at what time. The
information must be saved in a textfile, and should not loose
information when a bomb occurs, so the file must be opened and closed
each time the user changes program.
   To be able to get the information, the code will have to run in the
background, and therefore be placed in the system heap, and could be an
Init or a DA.
   I was considering to use the TimeManager, but as far as I can see,
this may cause a few problems.
   As the user has to put other information in the textfile (to comment
the use of an application), I have to make a DA (or a cdev) to insert
the comments in the file.

   As the only programs I have made for Macs are normal applications, I
would like to know if others have tried something similar, and which
method (DA or Init/cdev) you think is the best for solving the problem.

   Thanks in advancen
   Institute of Datalogi (DIKU)
   University of Copenhagen

   UUCP: ....!uunet!mcvax!diku!holst


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From: [e-mail] (Frank Kuiper)
Subject: Using IBM SCSI tapestreamer with Mac's
Date: 18 Feb 88 17:44:25 GMT
Organization: Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science, Amsterdam

This is probably not easy to do, but:

We have some IBM SCSI tape streamer drives (part number: 6080415) lying
around (can you say "Obsolete"? :-). I would like to use them with a
Mac+/SE/MacII or a MacII under A/UX.

Did anyone of you ever try to do something similar? Maybe even have a
driver for this purpose?

If this works, doing backups will be much easier (no messing around with
floppies), and we don't have to buy an Apple or third party drive ...

I would appreciate any comments.

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Frank Kuiper, CWI, Amsterdam.                                         ___
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Siegel)
Subject: LightspeedC 3.0 Upgrade Policy
Date: 19 Feb 88 04:33:26 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University


This is an official policy statement as to the upgrade policy for
LightspeedC:

    "LightspeedC users who purchased their copy of LightspeedC on
    or after February 1st, 1988 will receive the upgrade to
    version 3.0 of LightspeedC free of charge."

Please note that I still do not have a release date for LightspeedC or
Lightspeed Pascal. As I've said before, it's not far off, and I'll post
when I have more details.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. If you know someone who doesn't follow the
newsgroups and uses LightspeedC, tell them of this policy; also,
propagate this message to other online services and BBSs.

That is all.

        --Rich
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THINK Technologies, QA Technician (on leave)

The opinions stated here do not represent the policies
of THINK Technologies or of Carnegie-Mellon University.

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